[VIDEO] SavageGeese Offers Up an In-Depth Review of the C8 Corvette

1. Yikes….they liked the car until they got to the track-terminal understeer????

2. YEP

3. It went from being the greatest thing ever… to them destroying it in the end…

4. I have to agree with Steve and Rich (don’t disagree with Daniel on their assessments. I’ve been watching Savage Geese for several months. I’ve started to pick up on some of his biases. As scientific as he is and he and his partners are among the best three or four reviewers, he often jumps to conclusions. He also skips steps at times. It looks like Steve and Rich both noticed that there was a loss of subjectivity and background when it came to assessing the car’s track capabilities. Further, prior to tracking, there was no mention as to whether the section of the owner’s manual regarding tracking the car was read or not. A lot of people skip over that section. As a car that does more in different segments than most any car, there is value in reading all of that boring material in the manual. For instance, I saw one reviewer take the licence plate “insert,” of the C8 and fling it away after putting on the license plate with the announcement, “I won’t be needing this thing any more,” or words to that effect. It turns out, for example, that the nose insert is a useful track tool. GM mentions that in track prepping the car, the license plate is to be removed along with any holder than the insert put back in. This reduces some dirty air and makes the car more aerodynamic. It is not just a decoration for the den or an item for the trash can. Of course, by now, almost everyone knows that the brake cooling ducts are to both installed before track use and then removed after track use. (a fire is possible if debris is caught in that barke air ducting.) Track work is not to be conducted with the C8 until after the full 1,500 mile break-in period. The brakes also are to be checked and if not, “burnished,” that procedure is to be followed prior to tracking. The suspension not only is to be adjusted prior to tracking (which the Geese touched upon in his presentation) it is very important for obtaining the best possible cornering on the race track and all that such cornering entails. We must be all done, right? Not quite. The transmission fluid must be checked for the amount in the DCT reservoir and in most cases, two quarts of the exactly called for DCT fluid must be added and very carefully in order to not damage the transmission. Tire condition must be checked and the proper tires must also be on the car. By and large, when tracking, the car should be in track mode. I’m not sure how much was mentioned with regard to the car’s capabilities with the video data recorder, g-forces, track information with regard to cornering and etc. Apparently, when a couple of race car drivers “track the car” after all the adjustments are made, they notice no real understeer nor sudden oversteer in handling, while tracking the car. Other than this reference though, as usual, Savage Geese did a pretty good job. I called him out on the above mentions after viewing the review for the first time, and after I saw it. AF

5. The car they track is provided by a third party, it has different wheels and tires. Also as said above no attention was paid to clear advice provided by Corvette in the Manual.

   This reviewer, SavageGeese, relies 100% on his side-guy. The side-guy delivers all the actual information. In about 5 mins.

   The rest of the review, and the rest of all of his reviews, are his opinion on the terrible ideas of the customers who buy these cars. Every car he reviews has, not engineering problems, nope, “inappropriate customer” problems. The guy is an overgrown Goldilocks, forever carping on about how “this customer is too hot, that customer is too cold, the car companies are building cars for them, their cars just aren’t perrrrrrrrrfect for ME and what I WANT” – followed up by trashing of people who aren’t like him and their cars.

   Seriously, listen to his description of Corvette customers – repeated ad nauseam – “too old fat stupid can’t handle any tracking therefore need to be babied with understeer” from the guy who can’t be bothered to read the manual.

   He owned an FR-S/BRZ for years and spent thousands on it all so he could complain, for years, on the internet. He tells people intending to buy M cars and AMG’s that they “don’t deserve them”. He thinks every car less than 10 years old is doughy, yet he can’t understand the suspension-tuning modes available in their electronic variable set-ups. Then he complains about the existence of electronic variable set-ups!

   His whole thesis is that enthusiast cars should be $150k cars available for $50k, but only to him and the people he has chosen for these cars prior to their being made. He wants to be “The Decider” of who gets which cars, and how much the OEMs get paid for that. He can’t understand basic social economics.

   But hey, the side-guy is for real, and very cool. He’s worth it.

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